tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post111780853519517107..comments2023-10-31T07:13:33.019-04:00Comments on VivaNedFlanders: Baptism for the remission of sinsNFlandershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11284950332573759898noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1118106307150750022005-06-06T21:05:00.000-04:002005-06-06T21:05:00.000-04:00Allison--That is a good point. I hadn't thought of...Allison--<BR/>That is a good point. I hadn't thought of remission working forwards or continually. But I still do think that 8-year-olds are a bit young to really comprehend and take advantage of baptism. It's cold comfort to look back and say, "I think I made a convenant that will help wash these sins away".NFlandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11284950332573759898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1118095989573564552005-06-06T18:13:00.000-04:002005-06-06T18:13:00.000-04:00Ned, I'm not sure I remember who wrote it at M*, b...Ned, I'm not sure I remember who wrote it at M*, but someone mentioned that remission of sins isn't a one-time wipe. You're baptised not just for the remission of sins you've committed, but for the sins you will commit in the future and subsequently repent of. Sin remission is a process, not just a single occurrence.Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03953014496460731876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1118012629770469342005-06-05T19:03:00.000-04:002005-06-05T19:03:00.000-04:00Sue-- I am jealous of your vivid baptismal memorie...Sue-- I am jealous of your vivid baptismal memories. As I think I mentioned in my previous baptism post, I don't have any recollection of mine, except the meeting before and the locker room after. Very weird.<BR/><BR/>Ann-- I've never thought of the children of former Mormons. I guess I just assumed that people would leave a family alone after they'd decided not to come any more. I've found moving to be an effective way of getting your records lost.NFlandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11284950332573759898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1117849981526313342005-06-03T21:53:00.000-04:002005-06-03T21:53:00.000-04:00In the DAMU, one of the consequences of eight year...In the DAMU, one of the consequences of eight year-old baptisms is that when a member of the underground decides to exit, any children (minors, mind you) who have been baptised have to write their own letter. A child can be baptized and never set foot in a church again, but as far as the church is concerned, until they are (what is it? 105?) they are members.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if you really want out, you have to play by the church's rules unless you are a lawyer yourself or have a lot of money. It is my understanding that a minor is not able to enter in to a contract, but the church considers them bound.<BR/><BR/>I know for believers, this seems like a silly thing to get your underwear in a bunch about, but membership carries with it certain inevitabilities. Like home teachers hassling you.<BR/><BR/>For that reason, I agree entirely with Ned. Eighteen. A child should not be able to be baptized until they are able to join the military, because unlike most protestant churches, you can't just say "No thanks, I'm not interested" when you're done being a Mormon.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07636304888031546405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1117848224691314902005-06-03T21:23:00.000-04:002005-06-03T21:23:00.000-04:00I vividly remember being seven, dreading the day o...I vividly remember being seven, dreading the day of my baptism. Why? Because after that, all my sins would COUNT. Until then, I felt free to lie with impunity, steal nickels off of my dad's dresser, etc. I was sort of a brat.<BR/><BR/>When I was baptized, I didn't know that I was supposed to plug my nose - I thought my dad was going to do that for me - not sure why I thought that... Anyway, I came up coughing and sputtering, and I remember thinking that God was making sure I knew he was wise to me. That's probably one of my most vivid memories of childhood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11231724.post-1117810129677234102005-06-03T10:48:00.000-04:002005-06-03T10:48:00.000-04:00Interesting post. I largely agree with you, as I...Interesting post. I largely agree with you, as I posted on the M* thread. Troublesome stuff indeed. BTW Ned, shoot me an email.NAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11764251961337179884noreply@blogger.com